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Jackie Schuld: How Autism and Innovation Go Hand in Hand

2/2/2024

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Season 6, Episode 1

Today’s Guest: Jackie Schuld is a Licensed Professional Counselor, Board-Certified Art Therapist, and Registered Expressive Arts Therapist. She owns a private practice that specializes in late-identified autism (Jackie is autistic and ADHD). She is the author and illustrator of Therapy Private Practice, Grief is a Mess, and Making it Through Chemotherapy. While Jackie values her professional work, what she really wants people to know is that she is a human first. She loves waking up early and writing, taking naps, creating art, venturing into nature, doing puzzles, spending time with her family, and much, much more.

SHOW TOPICS
  • Where therapy misses the mark when it comes to autism
  • What is the internal experience like for autistics?
  • The innovation and inherent creativity of the autistic brain
  • The beauty of Jackie’s unique private practice schedule

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Julia Vering: How Expression and Fun Help Facilitate Healing

11/10/2023

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Season 5, Episode 2
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Today’s Guest:
 Julia Vering, LSCSW, LCSW, REAT, is a performance artist and musician, licensed clinical social worker, and Registered Expressive Arts Therapist based in Kansas City. She has integrated the arts into social work for 20 years, centering her practice in joy, humor, imagination, and the strengths perspective. She has received grants from The Charlotte Street Foundation and Andy Warhol Foundation for Visual Arts for her community-based performance work involving collaborations with older adults and people with neurocognitive disorders. She also tours and releases albums as “Unicorns in the Snow,” a performance art project that integrates interactive projections, stop-motion animation, and original music. 
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Vering has worked in hospice and long-term care settings for the past 17 years. She opened her private practice, Expressive Arts Therapy KC, in 2022. She became the first Registered Expressive Arts Therapist in the state of Kansas in 2023 and serves as the Kansas State coordinator for the International Expressive Arts Therapy Association. Vering integrates expressive arts, psychodrama and EMDR into her practice, and is currently creating a workbook and film on performance art interventions for people with neurocognitive disorders. 
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SHOW TOPICS
  • Finding liberation and community through "weird" and "quirky" art forms
  • The symbiotic relationship between art and therapy
  • Facilitating healing and rehumanizing activities for patients and families in long-term care facilities through silliness and fun

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Kelly Hutton: How There Are No Mistakes in Art

9/22/2023

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Season 4, Episode 8

Today’s Guest
: Not a stranger to struggles and possibilities from decades of life and career changes, profound loss, and personal reinvention, Kelly Hutton, LMFT, is a queer anti-racist ADHDer who specializes in queer grief, loss, and trauma recovery in the unique grief experiences of neurodivergent LGBTQIPA2+ people. Her passions include hospice care, EMDR, and talking about death, dying, bereavement, and neurocognitive decline with teens, caregivers/partners, and older adults while bearing witness to their grief journeys. Kelly grew up in a blended multicultural family of artists, educators, and entrepreneurs who strive in their own ways to think like Leonardo da Vinci. Kelly is glad that she isn’t dead yet because she can still experience and learn pluralistically, including being on a podcast for the first time ever, and remembering that those who laugh, last.
 
SHOW TOPICS
  • The importance of considering different perspectives and taking an interdisciplinary approach to therapy
  • The benefits of remaining curious and asking questions rather than resorting to “I don’t know”
  • Getting back to the “why” of going into therapy and what is alive for us as therapists now
  • Using lived experience to hold space for grief and sadness within the queer community

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Valerie Ellis: How an Artist Alchemizes Creativity and Psychology

9/15/2023

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Season 4, Episode 7

Today’s Guest:
Valerie Ellis is an artist and former psychotherapist with a studio near west London. She uses paper to represent human experience and intrapersonal dynamics. Valerie gained her psychology degree from the prestigious University of Queensland, Australia. After 20 years in private practice, she moved back to the UK, where she'd lived as a child. In September 2023 she will begin attending the Royal College of Art for a master's degree in painting. With a psychological lens, Valerie’s artwork uniquely reflects themes like childhood, stress, and disguise through the medium of paper minimalist artworks and post-impressionist oil paintings.

SHOW TOPICS
  • Facing the disillusionment of the idea that therapy can save everyone
  • The importance of meeting people’s basic needs before being able to address further needs in therapy​
  • Merging psychology and expression to create art pieces that reflect viewers' life journeys

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Katy MacRae: How the Process Is the Point of Creativity

5/12/2023

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Season 3, Episode 6

Today’s Guest: Katy MacRae, LCSW, is a psychotherapist based in New Haven, CT.  She has been working in private practice for over a decade, and she also works for the psychiatry department at Yale New Haven Hospital. Katy focuses on using artmaking and creativity to help people learn and remember DBT and CBT skills.  

SHOW TOPICS
  • How art-making can help clients remember DBT and CBT skills
  • What do you do with all of the art your clients create in therapy sessions? What about your own creations?
  • Cultivating a private practice that sustains us as therapists 

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Nattan Hollander: How to Honor the Connection Between Art and Spirituality

1/13/2023

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Season 2, Episode 2

Today's Guest: Nattan Hollander, LMFT, was an artist first and became a psychotherapist along the way. He made art as a child in Israel, where he grew up, and later moved to the US to train in art and get his fine arts degree at CalArts in California. He was living in a Zen Center during that time, where he spent many hours meditating and learned to cook great soups for Zen retreats with a woman who soon became his wife. He earned his MA at Pacifica Graduate Institute, a school that emphasizes care of the soul as being central to mental health. This aligned with his own sensibilities as an artist. For Nattan, art and spirituality are inseparable. When he works with artists as a therapist, he treats their creative life as sacred.

SHOW TOPICS
  • Wrestling with creativity and making within an institutional space
  • Reconnecting with creation through writing an experiential thesis centered around meditation and imagination
  • The importance of treating a client’s creative life as sacred and helping them find value in creation in a society that doesn’t always lift it up
  • How lacking opportunity for expression and creativity can be a matter of life and death​

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What Makes an Artist an Artist?

8/9/2022

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I don't draw. I mean, technically I can draw, but I don't feel like I have a much skill at it. My talent lies more in words and sound — in undergrad I focused on poetry because I knew it would probably be the only time in life when I could study whatever I wanted, and rhythm and rhyme were it.

I took an art class from a friend a few years ago and created the images above. The teacher seemed surprised at my skill level (methinks her standards were low!). She also objected when I complained that people only tend to apply the label "artist" to those in the visual arts. She pointed out that in schools most of the funding (if there is funding for art) goes toward band, theater, or choir, not visual art. She wasn't wrong.

Although I don't consider myself a visual artist I am creative, and I think that creative spirit can be expressed in many ways, including everything we think of when we hear the word "artist," as well as creativity in business and home life.

What do you think of when you hear the word "artist?" Maybe people like Van Gogh or Beyoncé? And who among us gets to decide who gets the rights and privileges to call themselves artists? I think culture has a lot to do with it (In particular, I'm thinking of Black clothing designers who have their ideas used without credit given). I also have a feeling I will be returning to this topic again.

I feel fortunate to have been able to experiment with any creative medium I like. And I also have had the privilege to choose not to care if someone thinks I'm not a "real artist." Not everyone has this same freedom, though, especially if their main livelihood comes from art. What are your thoughts and experiences?
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    Rachel Moore, LMFT, (she/her) is a singer, musician, writer, and the host of the Beyond Artist's Block podcast. She is also a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist based in San Diego, California. Rachel is certified in EMDR and trained in Brainspotting, and she focuses on working with creative clients, including writers, artists, and musicians.

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